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RhanoctJocosa · Jul 31, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53

So, I log in this morning to find my account has been, for the first time in two years, 4k hours+, suspended for 70 hours (Q_Q) due to a "racial slur" I used. I know what happened, and I'd like to know whether ANet considers the context in which you said the "slur" when they go and suspend your account or just do it to appease the mothers worrying about their little son or daughter learning bad words.

Also: I haet TANG people

Roshi_ikkyu · Jul 31, 2007, 09:56 AM // 09:56

A racial slur is a racial slur no matter the context, take the 70hrs and learn a lesson.

Etta · Jul 31, 2007, 09:59 AM // 09:59

Ah well, what you gonna do about it? You admitted yourself you used the "racial slur".

RhanoctJocosa · Jul 31, 2007, 10:03 AM // 10:03

How can you say that? Context shapes meaning. Always.

While waiting for a GvG:

A: stfu u ngrfgt lolol
B: omgawd reported ^^
c: do any of you nubs even know what a ngrfgt is?
Me: <youknowwhat>.
ABC: LOL OWNT

Utterly ridiculous imo, in no way was I using the term to put anyone down or to offend.

Earth · Jul 31, 2007, 10:10 AM // 10:10

It's still a racial slur. Stop crying and learn your lesson.

ryanistheryan · Jul 31, 2007, 10:10 AM // 10:10

anet telling you to go outside..

RhanoctJocosa · Jul 31, 2007, 10:15 AM // 10:15

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Originally Posted by ryanistheryan

anet telling you to go outside..

go back under your bridge

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I'm not really crying about it, as I can just use an alt account, but when ANet are suspending my account for something as stupid as this when they could be putting their efforts to better use it annoys me.

Etta · Jul 31, 2007, 10:19 AM // 10:19

Sir, I wasn't there, so I don't know exactly what happen. Your words alone mean little here really. Take it up with the support if you feel unjust by this.

According to your information, person A should definitely be ban as well. You as person D shouldn't get involved in the first place.

RhanoctJocosa · Jul 31, 2007, 10:26 AM // 10:26

Tijger, can you join ryan please.

Etta, thanks for posting something relevant to the thread. I agree with you, I guess. I still think ANet need to lrn2context, though.

ZenRgy · Jul 31, 2007, 10:34 AM // 10:34

So much flame.

Anything counts as a slur, albeit RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOfaggot is a pretty bad one still, there's a lot you can get reported for by PvE care bears. C'est al vie.

Roshi_ikkyu · Jul 31, 2007, 10:36 AM // 10:36

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

Tijger, can you join ryan please.

Etta, thanks for posting something relevant to the thread. I agree with you, I guess. I still think ANet need to lrn2context, though.

Like i said its still a racial slur, take ur ban and be done with it. Saying something racial is still saying something racial. And with you behaviour towards people on here ur not helping your case.

Anet may not de-ban your account before your ban period expires, but fighting with people here won't help. Send off an email or a complaint ticket and see what action they are willing to do.
And I suggest you avoid using any such racial slurs in any context

Roshi_ikkyu · Jul 31, 2007, 10:40 AM // 10:40

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Originally Posted by ZenRgy

So much flame.

Anything counts as a slur, albeit RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOfaggot is a pretty bad one still, there's a lot you can get reported for by PvE care bears. C'est al vie.

Becareful now you could say something that leads to a ban.

And if he was waiting for a GvG where does the PvE people come in, for that matter where do non-guildies come in?

Etta · Jul 31, 2007, 10:40 AM // 10:40

It's a bit of a grey area really, consider today Political Correctness (PC) and people mind set. Some words are use by a certain group of people everyday, common words if you may but when other group use those words, bam! all hell break. Just think if it's sound offensive then it probably is.

Patrick Smit · Jul 31, 2007, 10:46 AM // 10:46

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Originally Posted by ZenRgy

So much flame.

Anything counts as a slur, albeit RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOfaggot is a pretty bad one still, there's a lot you can get reported for by PvE care bears. C'est al vie.

Being against racism or any other form of discrimination has nothing to do with PvE.

Back to the point, I agree that you were just explaining the shorthand term, and were not insulting anyone as it wasn't targetted at someone. I would submit a mail explaining the context with a screendump, in that way many things can become clear, maybe they submitted a screendump where the text u typed was taken completely out of context. For example scrolled up far, enough so u don't see the lines just above, so they let it appear that you were insulting someone. If this is indeed the case as you describe it then better be careful when you use words like that, your "naivety" ensured the reporter could report you.

RhanoctJocosa · Jul 31, 2007, 10:49 AM // 10:49

I'm not asking for a de-ban, nor am I selling +1s to trolls who have nothing better to do atm. I want to know whether ANet takes into account the context of your actions when they suspend your account.

I know what a racial slur is, and ngrfgt, in the context of which I said it, is not a racial slur, and ANet should recognize this.

EDIT: Thanks Patrick. I'll do just that. Discussion can go on untill a mod thinks its out of hand and locks this thread into oblivion.

Etta · Jul 31, 2007, 10:59 AM // 10:59

Those 2 words are definitely very offensive. Let me ask you, would you say those words when you're out and about? I know, in the context of which you said it, it didnt sound like that. But like I said, most people won't see the grey area.

Tijger · Jul 31, 2007, 11:14 AM // 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

Tijger, can you join ryan please.

Etta, thanks for posting something relevant to the thread. I agree with you, I guess. I still think ANet need to lrn2context.

Dude, why the hell are you opening a topic here when your issue is with Anet?

You wont get any solution, all you want to hear is "oh poor innocent you, Anet wronged you!". If you cant deal with people who think that maybe you deserved to be banned then dont post in a public forum

ryanryanryan0310 · Jul 31, 2007, 11:17 AM // 11:17

They should just add more words to the filter. Don't turn off the filter if you don't want to read them..?

On another note I've been hearing alot of people getting the 70hrs bann for "slurs".

jrk247 · Jul 31, 2007, 11:24 AM // 11:24

It doesn't matter what the context is, it is still racism. I'm glad Anet is finally doing something about this, after seeing first hand how many racists are actually playing err chatting in the game. There's a fine line between playing around and racism, until you figure that out I guess you'll be banned a few more times. I know it's BS that you are (to our knowledge) the only one being banned for this, but learn from it and move on. I just hope Anet starts cracking down on the racism in this game. Just go to RA AD. 1 and you'll see how bad it is at times.

RhanoctJocosa · Jul 31, 2007, 11:26 AM // 11:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tijger

Dude, why the hell are you opening a topic here when your issue is with Anet?

You wont get any solution, all you want to hear is "oh poor innocent you, Anet wronged you!". If you cant deal with people who think that maybe you deserved to be banned then dont post in a public forum

"and I'd like to know whether ANet considers the context in which you said the "slur" when they go and suspend your account" I asked a question: this is the "Questions & Answers" section, is it not?

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@Etta, no I would not; I despise racism.
@Ryan, *shrug*.

EDIT: fixed links..

Jul 31, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53	#1
RhanoctJocosa Legendary Korean Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: The Benecia Renovatio [RenO] Profession: W/	Banned, etc So, I log in this morning to find my account has been, for the first time in two years, 4k hours+, suspended for 70 hours (Q_Q) due to a "racial slur" I used. I know what happened, and I'd like to know whether ANet considers the context in which you said the "slur" when they go and suspend your account or just do it to appease the mothers worrying about their little son or daughter learning bad words. Also: I haet TANG people

Jul 31, 2007, 10:49 AM // 10:49	#15
RhanoctJocosa Legendary Korean Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: The Benecia Renovatio [RenO] Profession: W/	I'm not asking for a de-ban, nor am I selling +1s to trolls who have nothing better to do atm. I want to know whether ANet takes into account the context of your actions when they suspend your account. I know what a racial slur is, and ngrfgt, in the context of which I said it, is not a racial slur, and ANet should recognize this. EDIT: Thanks Patrick. I'll do just that. Discussion can go on untill a mod thinks its out of hand and locks this thread into oblivion. Last edited by RhanoctJocosa; Jul 31, 2007 at 10:53 AM // 10:53..

Jul 31, 2007, 10:59 AM // 10:59	#16
Etta Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mancland, British Empire	Those 2 words are definitely very offensive. Let me ask you, would you say those words when you're out and about? I know, in the context of which you said it, it didnt sound like that. But like I said, most people won't see the grey area. Last edited by Etta; Jul 31, 2007 at 11:01 AM // 11:01..

Jul 31, 2007, 09:56 AM // 09:56	#2
Roshi_ikkyu Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: Mo/W	A racial slur is a racial slur no matter the context, take the 70hrs and learn a lesson.

Jul 31, 2007, 09:59 AM // 09:59	#3
Etta Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mancland, British Empire	Ah well, what you gonna do about it? You admitted yourself you used the "racial slur".

Jul 31, 2007, 10:03 AM // 10:03	#4
RhanoctJocosa Legendary Korean Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: The Benecia Renovatio [RenO] Profession: W/	How can you say that? Context shapes meaning. Always. While waiting for a GvG: A: stfu u ngrfgt lolol B: omgawd reported ^^ c: do any of you nubs even know what a ngrfgt is? Me: <youknowwhat>. ABC: LOL OWNT Utterly ridiculous imo, in no way was I using the term to put anyone down or to offend.

Jul 31, 2007, 10:10 AM // 10:10	#5
Earth Always Outnumbered Join Date: Jul 2006	It's still a racial slur. Stop crying and learn your lesson.

Jul 31, 2007, 10:10 AM // 10:10	#6
ryanistheryan Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2006 Guild: one man [team] Profession: W/A	anet telling you to go outside..

Jul 31, 2007, 10:19 AM // 10:19	#8
Etta Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mancland, British Empire	Sir, I wasn't there, so I don't know exactly what happen. Your words alone mean little here really. Take it up with the support if you feel unjust by this. According to your information, person A should definitely be ban as well. You as person D shouldn't get involved in the first place.

Jul 31, 2007, 10:26 AM // 10:26	#9
RhanoctJocosa Legendary Korean Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: The Benecia Renovatio [RenO] Profession: W/	Tijger, can you join ryan please. Etta, thanks for posting something relevant to the thread. I agree with you, I guess. I still think ANet need to lrn2context, though.

Jul 31, 2007, 10:34 AM // 10:34	#10
ZenRgy Zookeeper Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader Guild: ҉ ̵̡̢̢̛̛̛̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟&# Profession: N/E	So much flame. Anything counts as a slur, albeit RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOfaggot is a pretty bad one still, there's a lot you can get reported for by PvE care bears. C'est al vie.

Jul 31, 2007, 10:40 AM // 10:40	#13
Etta Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mancland, British Empire	It's a bit of a grey area really, consider today Political Correctness (PC) and people mind set. Some words are use by a certain group of people everyday, common words if you may but when other group use those words, bam! all hell break. Just think if it's sound offensive then it probably is.

Jul 31, 2007, 11:17 AM // 11:17	#18
ryanryanryan0310 Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS]	They should just add more words to the filter. Don't turn off the filter if you don't want to read them..? On another note I've been hearing alot of people getting the 70hrs bann for "slurs".

Jul 31, 2007, 11:24 AM // 11:24	#19
jrk247 Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]	It doesn't matter what the context is, it is still racism. I'm glad Anet is finally doing something about this, after seeing first hand how many racists are actually playing err chatting in the game. There's a fine line between playing around and racism, until you figure that out I guess you'll be banned a few more times. I know it's BS that you are (to our knowledge) the only one being banned for this, but learn from it and move on. I just hope Anet starts cracking down on the racism in this game. Just go to RA AD. 1 and you'll see how bad it is at times.